Hi there,
yesterday I had my first test game with my upcoming DE army and due to a few games against them I want to put down some initial thoughts.
First thing is, I am sure that the classic lance or raider spam wont work anymore. Lances perform just like the normal missile launchers in most cases, are more expensive in actual and hidden costs and can´t be fielded within units that are durable *and* fast.
Raiders are too expensive.They die through bolterfire and are 1/4 of a Landraider or 2 Rhinos which will perform pay better to their given roles. They are fast, yes, but that´s all about it and unnecessary because the army is really fast even on foot. Plus you put your units into a huge danger going flat out or just waste half of your speed and be "degraded" to a rhino with 1 av less.
Haemunculi are nice but I think they are far from mandatory. Delivering paintokens is great because the advantages you gain go from "pretty nice" to "GEEZUS!", Wychtes evolve from a good unit to a real threat after gaining 2 of them, but a well built army will still work without them.
The army as a whole has to be a well orchestrated minuet of death and destruction where each unit has its parts piano at the beginning, then crescendo into a violent forte wrecking your opponents army. To achieve this spamming won´t work in my opinion, you have to create and exploit synergies within your army in order to achieve the most of it.
By the way, I think DE are masters of MSU.
So far my first thoughts on the new book, and there´s a lot more to come.
take care
Freitag, 7. Januar 2011
Freitag, 31. Dezember 2010
Baltic Brother Challange Part 2
Ok, part 2 of my short report of the BBC...
Game 4 we had to face Team 40kings,ETC Teammembers,tough one.... SailingLord against a horde of Thunderwolfcav and I had to play a leafblower-guard list. Mission was tablequarters, 12" in. I won first turn and set up,my plan was to ignore the mission until I crippeld his army enough to gain one or two quarters, depending on what´s left on the table.
He stole the initiative.
Yay, that moment I felt like my hamster died.
Long story short, turn one he silenced my guns and stunned or destroyed my vehicles.Turn 4 he left nothing but cinders...
SL managed to gain a draw, but we still lost because of me getting blasted off the table.
Game 3
Mission was 5 objectives, 12" in, both players at one table. Awesome. We played against a Blood Angel jumperlist and a mixed guard,again members of the ETC-Team.
I don´t remember any huge events anymore because most of the magic took place within small thinks like positioning within combats and stuff, except from some insane rolling the first 3 turns which granted us a huge advantage. Top of turn 5 we held 5 of 5 objectives, bottom of turn 5 it was 1 to 1 and ended. They made some really good moves right there and due to some good rolls they managed to turn a devastating loss into a good draw.My respect there.
All in all we became 4th out of 19. Not bad but we hoped to reach at least top 3.But next year XD
So,take care and a happy new year
Game 4 we had to face Team 40kings,ETC Teammembers,tough one.... SailingLord against a horde of Thunderwolfcav and I had to play a leafblower-guard list. Mission was tablequarters, 12" in. I won first turn and set up,my plan was to ignore the mission until I crippeld his army enough to gain one or two quarters, depending on what´s left on the table.
He stole the initiative.
Yay, that moment I felt like my hamster died.
Long story short, turn one he silenced my guns and stunned or destroyed my vehicles.Turn 4 he left nothing but cinders...
SL managed to gain a draw, but we still lost because of me getting blasted off the table.
Game 3
Mission was 5 objectives, 12" in, both players at one table. Awesome. We played against a Blood Angel jumperlist and a mixed guard,again members of the ETC-Team.
I don´t remember any huge events anymore because most of the magic took place within small thinks like positioning within combats and stuff, except from some insane rolling the first 3 turns which granted us a huge advantage. Top of turn 5 we held 5 of 5 objectives, bottom of turn 5 it was 1 to 1 and ended. They made some really good moves right there and due to some good rolls they managed to turn a devastating loss into a good draw.My respect there.
All in all we became 4th out of 19. Not bad but we hoped to reach at least top 3.But next year XD
So,take care and a happy new year
Dienstag, 14. Dezember 2010
Baltic Brother Challange
So we went to the Baltic Brother Challange at Rostock, a team tournament where you have to divide into attacker and defender, my brother in arms was TheSailingLord with a Tyranid Sporepod list representing the attacking force and I went with my BA, giving them a chance to proof themselves viable again. I decided to build an aggressive list, planning to put my opponent into a defensiv role and force him to react to my actions.
I went with :
Reclusiarch
Sanguine Priest
Assaultterminators 3x Lighteningclaws 2x Thunderhammer/Stormshield
Land Raider Redeemer, Multimelter
Librarian Dreadnaught + Wings & Bloodlance
2x 5 Marine Ass.Squad 1x Flamer, 1x Meltagun
RB Las/Plas 1x HK Missile
1x 5 Marine Ass. Squad
RB Twin. Las
1 Attackbike + MM
Baalpredator +twin Ass.Cannon+ heavy Bolter Sponsons + Stormbolter
Predator + Lassponsons
Dreadnaught + twin Autocannons
Yor team is allowed to use 3550 points to make two lists which has to be at least 1725. We decided to use 1775 each. Missions were really different from what we are used to :
First mission was killpoints, the defender sets up first, attacker automatically has the first turn and enters the game deepstriking in two waves, like Demons.
I faced a Demonplayer, SL had to deal with Orks. Both of them seemed to be rookies and unfamiliar with their armies so we both scored a 20/0 major victory with almost no losses. Nothing really spectacular happend here.
Next game was 5 Objectives, honestly what I expected to be the worst mission for my list because of the simple reason that I just had 3 small troopchoices which will die if you look at them awkwardly. I played against a well-built Vulcan Marinelist whilst my buddy at to engage a classic lash 2/9. Not the best match up for our armies though. At first glance I didn´t know what to do with all these meltas and raiders and stuff, best I could do was to move up my parking lot and try to put pressure against his terminators in the raider while killing off the small stuff to decimate his anti-tank.Worked well. Throught field controlling with my Terminatordeathstar he was forced to spread out, encircle my army and devide his firepower. Through that (and some bad rolls/good saves) he wasn´t able to destroy my Landraider and I managed to pop both of his the next shooting phase and I started pushing forward and assaulting which ended the game pretty much for him. I won with 3 to zero objectives which was a major victory and SL beat the crap out of that 2/9. I thought that anybody who says Nids are crap just don´t understand the codex.
Next game was against two guys from the Northguard,a gaming club from Hamburg. We already knew them and have played them at several tournaments around here and I was sure that that´s going to be a really though one. Mission was Killpoints again but the long side of the board was divided in 3 areas. The attacker approaches from one side,scoring 1 extra point for every unit within area 2 and 2 extra points for getting them into area 3 (the defenders deploymentzone). My opponent played Orks with a Nob-Deathstar, some Stormboyz, 2 squads of Lootaz and 90 boyz or somewhat. So I planned on playing to minimize how many points he´ll score for there was no hope for me winning that game and pray that SL scores enough point to bring us victory (the points at the end of every game were added to determine which team won).
He set up, I set up and he got first turn. He popped two of my RB with his lootas and slowly approached on the table,so I had to do something to stop that horde on the other side of the table. I moved up and shot everything my guns could spit out into the lootaz, making them fail their moralechecks and run away, unfortunaly one group was able to recover a few inches away from the table edge. His battletank came out of reserve and he decided to put him into cover, leaving the terraincheck for the next round. That was a mistake for my last RB was thirsty for revenge and popped it with his lascannon.Boyz died and red tanks rolled up delivering the Emperors fury. I made the mistake to move up my Attackbike to far forward and I realized that the Stormboysquad of 20 was able to assault it. He suggested to just take it away for we´d save some time he otherwise would take for rolling, but I made him roll it, and tadaa, my bike only took a wound and tarpitted the stormboyz for my advancing Terminators (har). Unfortunaly my Reclusiarch failed an invulsave, otherwise Id have won by one, but I won´t complain for my attackbike could stand 20 Boyz and life. It was a draw and i was very satisfied with it. My buddy Saillinglord was able to put the BA´s Terminator/Rocketlauncher-list to the mangle and so we scored our third victory. Im not sure how many points we scored on that one so Ill just leave it.
So, this was the first day of the Baltic Brother Challange and we were really excited and looked forward to the second day eagerly. Ill write about that in a later post because this already is a huge chunk to read.
So, more to come, take care !
Montag, 15. November 2010
Sick of power armour
Damn Im sick of it. And my Blood Angels kinda know this, I think. Yesterday I went to a small tournament and received a beating I´ve never had before. I experimented with some stuff in order to get away from vehicles for everyone is planning on de-meching your whole army by turn 3 and what shall I say, it didn´t work out too well. Although I did quite well at the last two tournaments, I realized that I need to field something different, especially yesterday. Don´t get me wrong, I still love marines, but Im just fed up with playing them and I think it is time to play something completely different from that...
Necrons
I like them, got an army, but I think Im just not good enough to win a whole tournament with them, they are fun to field and give your opponent something unexpected to deal with for no one plays them anymore.Anyway, I think no current competetive Necron army could stand an imperial Leafblower or a Razorangels/wolves spam commanded by a skilled player...and by the way, 3+ power armour....
Eldar
Very classy, I got a Saim Hann army too, but I don´t feel like playing a skimmer-themed army with a council, for I got very few models on the table to work with and...no, just don´t feel like it.
Nids
I love the codex, I love the models but a teammate of mine is already playing them and I think, Ill leave them to him, for he does better with them than I would ever, and I think,Ill take the opportunity and start *tadam* with Dark Eldar.
So, why ? First, shiny new codex. Lots of unexplored possibilities and the chance of switiching my perspective of wargaming and creating cheesy tactics and mechanisms within the army.Second, awesome new models, enough said. And last but not least, it is something I´ve never played before and Im curious how they ´d play.
So, enough rambling today, take care
Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2010
Quick update
Hi there,
just a quick update befor I proceed with my holy mission of dish-washing. I have my Space Wolves almost done and ready, just one rhino is left to paint. Ill field them on the Halloween tournament Warpack 2010 at Oldesloe,near Hamburg.That´s going to be a tough one, a lot of good players from around here will be there and Im really looking forward to a fun and challanging tournament. My Wolves are nothing spectacular, lots of Greyhunters, some Longfangs and some stuff.My beloved Blood Angels are completely in a repaint-phase because I found my old Marine army ! It rested deep within the basement of my Mum´s house, never meant to be seen again. As you could imagine, I was very happy and proceeded with my project of my Adeptus Mechanicus Marine chapter which I dropped several years ago. "Iron Angels" or " Knights of Mars" or something like that, I have no name for it yet, but I think it´ll be damn cool.
So, praise the great Omnissiah and take care
Mittwoch, 13. Oktober 2010
Battlefield Brunswick
Hi there,
just a quick update here.
I went to Braunschweig last weekend with two guys of my club. I was eager to try out my new army concept, list was like that :
Logan Grimnar
Runepriest with living lightening and jaws.
1x Wolfguard with 3 stormshields, 1 thunderhammer and 1x meltabombs and a pod
3x Greyhunters, a 10 man squad with pod and meltas and all the good things, 1 in a rhino and 1 in a razorback
2x Landspeeder Typhoon
2x longfangs frist squad with 4 multimeltas and a missilelauncher plus pod, second with 5 missilelaunchers
1x Wolfscouts with mark, melta and meltabombs.
I put Logan into a pod together with the meltafangs,giving them relentless and delivering an awesome alphastrike but I really have to improve the list. The tournament was ok, I went 11th overall (because I didn´t send in the list by time, otherwise would´ve been 9th or so ) and 7th in General with one loss, two draws and two victories. It was the first time I played that list and for me beeing inexperienced with it, it was quite ok.Could have done better, but I just didn´t. Next time :)
take care
Freitag, 8. Oktober 2010
Has been a long time...
since my last post, but I got a lot to do. I had to finish up my wolves for a 1850 Tournament and had to spend time in strange things like realtionship and real life :) But now Im back and got a lot to tell. I tryed out my Space wolves in a small tournament last weekend called Raumpatrouille (Psacepatrol) VIII.
It was a strange concept.Your list had to start at 750 points and built up to 1000 and then 1250 and you weren´t allowed to change what you´ve already got.
I fielded my space wolves, just had 658 or so points to be able to field my landspeeders later,just two squads of greyhunters in rhinos with a Runepriest and a group of longfangs. First game was against a IG-Chimera spamlist with a Valkyrie, 3 Objectives. He scout-moved up and I seized.From there everything just went wrong.In my whole turn I fired everything, living lightening, 5 missles, 3 melta-guns and assaulted the valkyrie with one squad and managed to break of a lascannonen.To make a big whining short, nothing worked out and I lost with 2 to 1 Objectives which was counted as a 7/4.
Next game I had against a Tau list with Shadowsun and mainly ghosts, backed up by a two broadsides and some firewarriors with pathfinders.I added two Typhoonspeeders and a squad of wolfscouts to my list.The mission was three markers and you had to collect lootpoints by beeing within 3" of a objective with a scoring unit at the end of the enemys turn. I was really surprised how much firepower wolves can lay down when I recognized that I can outshoot Tau. I almost blasted him off the table and won with a 11/0 and 10 to 1 lootcounters.
Last game I had to play Dark Eldar.Lancespam, a few Transports, 2 Talos, 3 groups of footslogging Warriors, an Archon with that pesky 2 up invul and some other stuff I don´t remember.I now had a razorback with 5 greyhunters and a bikesquad of 3 with powerfist and meltabombs added to my list. Mission was standart mission in the rulebook 3 objectives.It was a tough game, but by turn 3 I could wipe out his whole left flank which were held by his warriors and reinforced my hidden rhino on the right. He got scared and withdraw his transports in the back of the field where I got a nice lane of fire with my longfangs and my speeders to put his HQ on foot far away from my greyhunters so I could move up to the objecitves with my troops easily. It was a good game with some glorious moments when I jawed away one Talos or killed of the Archon and his retinue with my wolfscouts.
Game ended with 3 to 0 obkjectives and a killpoint ratio of 10 to 0(I was surprised by myself^^) and I scored 11 points the second time.
Overall I additionally earned the full 4 points for having a completly painted army, so I got 30 points out 37 which made me second place. First place went to a guy from my gaming club with orcs, so it was a great day for Kiel.
Tomorrow Ill drive down to Braunschweig with two guys from my gaming-club and try out my logan-list concept.More to come
take care
It was a strange concept.Your list had to start at 750 points and built up to 1000 and then 1250 and you weren´t allowed to change what you´ve already got.
I fielded my space wolves, just had 658 or so points to be able to field my landspeeders later,just two squads of greyhunters in rhinos with a Runepriest and a group of longfangs. First game was against a IG-Chimera spamlist with a Valkyrie, 3 Objectives. He scout-moved up and I seized.From there everything just went wrong.In my whole turn I fired everything, living lightening, 5 missles, 3 melta-guns and assaulted the valkyrie with one squad and managed to break of a lascannonen.To make a big whining short, nothing worked out and I lost with 2 to 1 Objectives which was counted as a 7/4.
Next game I had against a Tau list with Shadowsun and mainly ghosts, backed up by a two broadsides and some firewarriors with pathfinders.I added two Typhoonspeeders and a squad of wolfscouts to my list.The mission was three markers and you had to collect lootpoints by beeing within 3" of a objective with a scoring unit at the end of the enemys turn. I was really surprised how much firepower wolves can lay down when I recognized that I can outshoot Tau. I almost blasted him off the table and won with a 11/0 and 10 to 1 lootcounters.
Last game I had to play Dark Eldar.Lancespam, a few Transports, 2 Talos, 3 groups of footslogging Warriors, an Archon with that pesky 2 up invul and some other stuff I don´t remember.I now had a razorback with 5 greyhunters and a bikesquad of 3 with powerfist and meltabombs added to my list. Mission was standart mission in the rulebook 3 objectives.It was a tough game, but by turn 3 I could wipe out his whole left flank which were held by his warriors and reinforced my hidden rhino on the right. He got scared and withdraw his transports in the back of the field where I got a nice lane of fire with my longfangs and my speeders to put his HQ on foot far away from my greyhunters so I could move up to the objecitves with my troops easily. It was a good game with some glorious moments when I jawed away one Talos or killed of the Archon and his retinue with my wolfscouts.
Game ended with 3 to 0 obkjectives and a killpoint ratio of 10 to 0(I was surprised by myself^^) and I scored 11 points the second time.
Overall I additionally earned the full 4 points for having a completly painted army, so I got 30 points out 37 which made me second place. First place went to a guy from my gaming club with orcs, so it was a great day for Kiel.
Tomorrow Ill drive down to Braunschweig with two guys from my gaming-club and try out my logan-list concept.More to come
take care
Abonnieren
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